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i want you to watch something by lindsey graham here. lindsey graham has been all over the place doing bad work i think the last couple days. here he is warning that cuts to police budgets, talk about republicans going crazy, are one reason citizens need guns with high capacity magazines. in other words, you got to reproduce the local police department. let's listen here. >> right. >> because of the fiscal state of affairs we have, there will be less police officers, not more, over the next decade. response times are going to be less, not more. there can be a situation where a mother runs out of bullets because of something we do here. >> now we have a new pearl harbor slogan, cut the police, pass the ammunition. i mean, it's unbelievable, ron. >> well, it's ironic, too because republicans have been promoting these slashing of local budgets that results in fewer police on the streets here, and there's an unstated irony in this as well. that lindsey graham knows full well, wayne lapierre knows full well, gayle troder knows full well and s
i want you to watch something by lindsey graham here. lindsey graham has been all over the place doing bad work i think the last couple days. here he is warning that cuts to police budgets, talk about republicans going crazy, are one reason citizens need guns with high capacity magazines. in other words, you got to reproduce the local police department. let's listen here. >> right. >> because of the fiscal state of affairs we have, there will be less police officers, not more, over...
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. >> jack ass lindsey graham had to imagine a situation in which a woman and her children are killed because she ran out of bullets because he could not find a case. as you saw, gail trotter's wild imaginings about the assault toting mom was completely fictional. she and lindsey graham at yesterday's senate hearing could not come up with a single case of a mother or father or any one else successfully defending themselves not one case. but there was an important point made about women and mother's and guns in that hearing yesterday and it came from one of the vices of sanity at the witness table. >> statistics show that when females are killed it is more likely over 50% of the time to be by a spouse or household member. statistics show that there is a 500% chance that that person will be victimized by gun violence. among those women killed buy a house hold member by a gun she bought herself and kept in her home was the mother of the young man in newtown, connecticut. joining me now is joy read. joy, one of the anecdotes that was thrown around a lot was about sara mccainly who defende
. >> jack ass lindsey graham had to imagine a situation in which a woman and her children are killed because she ran out of bullets because he could not find a case. as you saw, gail trotter's wild imaginings about the assault toting mom was completely fictional. she and lindsey graham at yesterday's senate hearing could not come up with a single case of a mother or father or any one else successfully defending themselves not one case. but there was an important point made about women and...
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. >> this thing about lindsey graham, if you agree with him it's great the way he talks. i mean, he just basically took as you said richard, one of the founding, dramatic, you know, well-funded core arguments of the nra which he has to work with and say that's not what i'm into. >> not so much, yeah. >> isn't that the deal, krystal? i mean, who is looking to handguns or even the military style assault weapons to take on the largest military in the world that has weapons and drones and tanks. what are we talking about? >> there is a group that does feel they have their weapons to protect themselves from the government. there is a small fringe group that does think that way. but it goes more to the basis of the nra's argument that any limit on the type of gun that you can own, how many you can own, how many you can buy at one time whether you have to have any background checks or have your name on a list if you own a weapon, that anything like that constitutes an infringement of second amendment right that is guaranteed to us. and as you know, the second amendment is not an
. >> this thing about lindsey graham, if you agree with him it's great the way he talks. i mean, he just basically took as you said richard, one of the founding, dramatic, you know, well-funded core arguments of the nra which he has to work with and say that's not what i'm into. >> not so much, yeah. >> isn't that the deal, krystal? i mean, who is looking to handguns or even the military style assault weapons to take on the largest military in the world that has weapons and...
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republican senator lindsey graham had r harsh words for secretary of state hillary clinton. he says that clinton "got away with murder in the hearings about the attack in benghazi." as clinton leaves office, merle streep is the favorite in a poll of who should play clinton if a movie is made about her. more than 6 in 10 voters say it's time for rick perry to step aside and not run for reelection next year. >>> george ryan is getting out of prison. he's served five years for corruption and now 78 years old. >>> and michael bloomberg had had high praise for joe biden telling politico, you know, joe biden, you can joke about him but he has a set of, fill in the blanks, and he says what he believes and is forced to focus on gay marriage. that's your scrambled politics. >>> turning to australia where massive flooding caused by the remnants of a cyclone has forced 7,500 people from their it homes. there's no power in most of the joan and officials are warning to be careful about drinking water. >>> now for a look at the national weather we turn to bill karins. >> it's been a busy
republican senator lindsey graham had r harsh words for secretary of state hillary clinton. he says that clinton "got away with murder in the hearings about the attack in benghazi." as clinton leaves office, merle streep is the favorite in a poll of who should play clinton if a movie is made about her. more than 6 in 10 voters say it's time for rick perry to step aside and not run for reelection next year. >>> george ryan is getting out of prison. he's served five years for...
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marco rubio, john mccain, lindsey graham saying, look, this has to be in the proposal. can they rally republicans in the house and senate behind the political necessity of putting immigration reform behind them with a path to sit sfwlenship or not? that seems to me to be the rub. >> with 2016 on their minds, we can also talk about the unusual joint interview the president and secretary of state hillary clinton and her last week in office jointly being appearing on "60 minutes." chuck todd, this was not an endorsement, they all say. it was a thank you. it was an interesting development to see these two together after aall that had proceeded in 2008. i was fascinated by this part of the interview where they were asked by steve croft about the residual resentments by staff and spouses that last lasted longer than the principles. let's watch. >> we both built some pretty thick skins. you know, sometimes our staffs don't go through that. they are taking umbrage and offense. hellry handled this, i assume as i do, we have a block, a screen, from a lot of the sillyness that hap
marco rubio, john mccain, lindsey graham saying, look, this has to be in the proposal. can they rally republicans in the house and senate behind the political necessity of putting immigration reform behind them with a path to sit sfwlenship or not? that seems to me to be the rub. >> with 2016 on their minds, we can also talk about the unusual joint interview the president and secretary of state hillary clinton and her last week in office jointly being appearing on "60 minutes."...
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if mccain played the betrayed besty, fellow republican lindsey graham took the role of disappointed dad over his remarks about the, quote, jewish lobby. >> give me an example of where we've been intimidated by the israeli jewish lobby to do something dumb. regarding the middle east, israel, or anywhere else. >> well, i can't give you an example. >> thank you. do you agree with me you shouldn't have said something like that? >> not to be outdone, freshman senator ted cruz played the new kid on the block going multimedia and playing a video of a collar to an al jazeera broadcast. >> the caller suggests that the nation of israel has committed war crimes, and your response to that was not to dispute that characterization. i'd like to ask you, do you think the nation of israel has committed war crimes? >> no, i do not. >> cruz also asked hagel to defend himself against an e-mail from that same broadcast and actually took a statement about the quote sickening slaughter in the middle east wildly out of context. senator cruz is certainly looking to be the next gop star. let's get right to our p
if mccain played the betrayed besty, fellow republican lindsey graham took the role of disappointed dad over his remarks about the, quote, jewish lobby. >> give me an example of where we've been intimidated by the israeli jewish lobby to do something dumb. regarding the middle east, israel, or anywhere else. >> well, i can't give you an example. >> thank you. do you agree with me you shouldn't have said something like that? >> not to be outdone, freshman senator ted cruz...
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if you'd have had it lindsey graham's way or john mccain's way we would have had troops in egypt, in libya, troops right now in syria. i don't think the american people have an appetite for that right now, nor do we have the resource to do that right now. it's in many respect not our fight. it's our diplomatic mission but it's not completely our fight. and the way of the obama administration has been to do things collectively. don't go it alone. and i think that chuck hagel fits very well in the obama administration for the pentagon. >> it seems like hagel is worthy of our blood and treasure. we'll continue to watch this. it's just as intense as it was anticipated to be. we'll see you at 8:00 p.m. here on msnbc. ed, thanks again. the power panel up next to weigh in on the hagel confirmation. you are watching our special coverage right here. >>> final for your entrepreneur of the week. the owner of aquariums in new york. the special attention have gained him a celebrity clientele. a customer base that he says can call his company anytime day or night if they need help. i'm only in my
if you'd have had it lindsey graham's way or john mccain's way we would have had troops in egypt, in libya, troops right now in syria. i don't think the american people have an appetite for that right now, nor do we have the resource to do that right now. it's in many respect not our fight. it's our diplomatic mission but it's not completely our fight. and the way of the obama administration has been to do things collectively. don't go it alone. and i think that chuck hagel fits very well in...
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. >> you're talking about senator lindsey graham. he showed the chart. >> this lady. >> the woman had a gun. she had a .38, six shots in it. he said an intruder comes in, she's in the closet protecting her children, she gets off six shots, five strike the guy, but it wasn't enough to kill him. so that if she had the ar-15 or a semiautomatic weapon, she would have been able to kill him. he fled, she killed, but he's saying she would have been able to kill him, not just strike him down. >> this is just a sick conversation. >> but it's part of -- there's a similar thread to all of this, and it's fear. you listen to wayne lapierre yesterday, it's fear. gun sales are driven by fear. his opposition to background checks is driven by trying to inject fear into the culture. it's all fear based. >> and -- >> i thought mark kelly was the best of all. >> we're going to show all this because there was such powerful testimony on capitol hill. >> did you see it? >> it was great. i got a big laugh out of wayne lapierre. he actually trotted out the s
. >> you're talking about senator lindsey graham. he showed the chart. >> this lady. >> the woman had a gun. she had a .38, six shots in it. he said an intruder comes in, she's in the closet protecting her children, she gets off six shots, five strike the guy, but it wasn't enough to kill him. so that if she had the ar-15 or a semiautomatic weapon, she would have been able to kill him. he fled, she killed, but he's saying she would have been able to kill him, not just strike...
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seven republicans have already said that they would vote no and senator lindsey graham has said that he will block the nomination if he doesn't get answers on benghazi. >> the one thing i'm not going to do is vote on a new secretary of defense until the old secretary of defense, leon panetta, who i like very much, testifying about what happened in benghazi. i'm going to block hagel from going forward -- >> so you're going to block him? >> absolutely. >> so we're closely watching also hagel's old pal, former vietnam veteran, senator john mccain, who he very publicly split with on the iraq surge. the vietnam vet, max cleland, almost dared mccain to vote no. >> we all suffered the same fate, pretty much, in the same war. and i don't want see john turning his back on his brother. >> that vietnam caucus was very close at one time. it's a shrinking caucus now in the u.s. senate, with many of those vietnam veterans not there anymore. >>> well, the capitol hill drama today will be hagel's nomination. yesterday, it was all about guns. yesterday's senate hearing packed emotion. gabby giffords
seven republicans have already said that they would vote no and senator lindsey graham has said that he will block the nomination if he doesn't get answers on benghazi. >> the one thing i'm not going to do is vote on a new secretary of defense until the old secretary of defense, leon panetta, who i like very much, testifying about what happened in benghazi. i'm going to block hagel from going forward -- >> so you're going to block him? >> absolutely. >> so we're closely...
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senator lindsey graham also calls himself a friend of chuck hagel. today he was anything but that. graham harped on a comment hagel made in the past about the israeli lobby. hagel has since apologized for the comments. >> name one dumb thing we've been goaded into doing because of the pressure from the israeli or jewish lobby. >> i have already stated that i regret the terminology -- >> but you said back then it makes us do dumb things. so give me -- >> that's what i was referring to. >> -- an example of where we've been intimidated by the israeli/jewish lobby to do something dumb. regarding the mideast, israel, or anywhere else. >> well, i can't give you an example. >> thank you. do you agree with me you shouldn't have said something like that? >> yes, i do. i've already said that. >> when hagel's old friends weren't settling scores, conservative senators were trying to make names for themselves. senator james inhofe opened the hearing saying he will oppose hagel no matter what. >> i believe he's the wrong person to lead the pentagon at this perilous and consequential time. >> tea
senator lindsey graham also calls himself a friend of chuck hagel. today he was anything but that. graham harped on a comment hagel made in the past about the israeli lobby. hagel has since apologized for the comments. >> name one dumb thing we've been goaded into doing because of the pressure from the israeli or jewish lobby. >> i have already stated that i regret the terminology -- >> but you said back then it makes us do dumb things. so give me -- >> that's what i was...
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. >> senator john mccain and three other republican senators, marco rubio, lindsey graham and jeff flake are now joining four democrats on a bipartisan plan to overhaul immigration laws that will estimate the current illegals in the united states to have a path to citizenship. >> this bipartisan blueprint is a major breakthrough. a tough but fair path to citizenship for illegal immigrants currently living in the united states. that is contingent upon secure ing our borderings. on day one of our bill the people here without status that are not criminals or security risks will be able to live here legally. >> this will be a tough pathway but it will be fair. it will be one in which those who have come to this country to achieve the american dream will come forth, must register with the government or they will lose their opportunities. >> the senators insist they can do this without threatening american jobs. >> for making sure that the amount of illegal immigrants that are -- amount of legal immigration that is allowed in the united states is based on the state of our economy. we are going
. >> senator john mccain and three other republican senators, marco rubio, lindsey graham and jeff flake are now joining four democrats on a bipartisan plan to overhaul immigration laws that will estimate the current illegals in the united states to have a path to citizenship. >> this bipartisan blueprint is a major breakthrough. a tough but fair path to citizenship for illegal immigrants currently living in the united states. that is contingent upon secure ing our borderings. on...
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he had to know that his problems were going to come from john mccain, ted cruz, lindsey graham, and a couple of the other republican conservatives. it just seemed to go completely off track. not the confirmation, but the performance. >> well, here's what happened. he was bad. i mean, there's no other kind of way to put it. these things -- these public kwurmation hearings are at least part performance, andrea, and i would argue they're mostly performance, and you are right. he just seemed sort of ill equipped to manage it. only thing i could think of was this. strategically speaking. chuck hagel and his people decided going into this that, yes, he had a few issues, but they had already sort of been publicly litigated and had proven to be not disqualifying. that is, he had got tony this point. therefore, he should just take sort of a passive stance, let ted cruz, let john mccain, let them lecture him sort of be apologetic and say i did the best i that i could, but not go on the attack, not be aggressive, be under the theory that if nothing else came out that ultimately the republican se
he had to know that his problems were going to come from john mccain, ted cruz, lindsey graham, and a couple of the other republican conservatives. it just seemed to go completely off track. not the confirmation, but the performance. >> well, here's what happened. he was bad. i mean, there's no other kind of way to put it. these things -- these public kwurmation hearings are at least part performance, andrea, and i would argue they're mostly performance, and you are right. he just seemed...
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. >> also last night on fox, you saw south carolina senator lindsey graham who is part of this deal trying to make this happen and, of course, has his own 2014 re-election prospects to worry about. always looking over his right shoulder for a primary. so he chose to blast the president while supporting this deal on fox. >> but if you want to talk about the president bringing us together and being a bold leader, in 2007 when we tried to do immigration reform, he folded like a cheap suit. what i've heard about what he's going to say, he's going to say there's no need to link a pathway to citizenship to border security. excuse me, mr. president? >> all right. let's call this what it is. it is all kabuki theater because this is about some of these republicans having to say publicly certain things so it doesn't look like they're overgiving the president anything. it's for their own politics on the right. meanwhile, senate leader mitch mcconnell also on the ballot in 2014 said in a statement very kurt statement, in order for any reform to be successful, congressional committees will have to revi
. >> also last night on fox, you saw south carolina senator lindsey graham who is part of this deal trying to make this happen and, of course, has his own 2014 re-election prospects to worry about. always looking over his right shoulder for a primary. so he chose to blast the president while supporting this deal on fox. >> but if you want to talk about the president bringing us together and being a bold leader, in 2007 when we tried to do immigration reform, he folded like a cheap...
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and it's not a surprise that lindsey graham is part of the negotiations. his state is changing. he received a new congressional seat back in 2010 because of the growth in latino vote. if you start looking at where there's a huge population boom, in the next phase of the population boom for the next election, it's all in the south. so it's in their best interests for the republican party to ensure that they're seen out in front. because otherwise, they're going to have a very tough battle moving on, to win not just the senate, but also the white house. >> so you talk about the south. let's talk about kentucky. we get this from mitch mcconnell and his statement on this. take a listen, "when the president addresses this issue today, i hope he will take a bipartisan approach, rather than delivering another bipartisan speech." we know that this is going to be a pretty progressive speech. the president is really going to swing for the fences here. >> yeah, he is. but, look, he's punted to congress on several big issues. this is no different. of course, he has a plan that if the senate
and it's not a surprise that lindsey graham is part of the negotiations. his state is changing. he received a new congressional seat back in 2010 because of the growth in latino vote. if you start looking at where there's a huge population boom, in the next phase of the population boom for the next election, it's all in the south. so it's in their best interests for the republican party to ensure that they're seen out in front. because otherwise, they're going to have a very tough battle moving...
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. >> i have always liked schumer politically and rubio, the fact he's with them, lindsey graham, i respect them all. are you surprised that rubio, who is obviously gunning for the presidency, has been able to make a deal with someone like chuck shunler of new york who is a liberal? is this something that can be done across the country, liberal/conservative compromise with teeth and also with something for people who have been here a long time and want to become american? >> there's no question. it's a wonderful turn of events, especially because of all the stalemates on a number of issues we've had in washington over the last few years. and so i was a bit surprised to see all eight of them standing up there at the podium locked in arms, coming out with this bipartisan proposal. so i think it bodes well for the issue. >> do you think we're going to get to the point if this thing is in effect or something like it where we won't be embarrassed by people racing across the border down the arizona line, texas line, people racing for their life to get jobs. i know their mope tiffs are good but th
. >> i have always liked schumer politically and rubio, the fact he's with them, lindsey graham, i respect them all. are you surprised that rubio, who is obviously gunning for the presidency, has been able to make a deal with someone like chuck shunler of new york who is a liberal? is this something that can be done across the country, liberal/conservative compromise with teeth and also with something for people who have been here a long time and want to become american? >> there's...
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. >> lindsey graham said the republicans aren't generating enough angry white guys to stay in power. it will describe them as fr freeloade freeloaders. that's not going to work. >> i think it's fair to say the republicans have sort of cornered the market on the angry white guy vote. there's not a whole lot more upside they can have there. and that's the issue here is if you look at where demographics are going, it's latinos are going to be the dominant force in politics here and the angry white guy, particularly the angry southern white guy, is becoming a shrinking piece of that. you see the instinct going on right now is to protect that through this gerrymandering, through this changing of the rules and the electoral college. the idea is to sustain the advantage the republicans for as long as possible but ultimately they're just rearranging the deck chairs here if they're not keeping up with where the country is going. ultimately they can only defy gravity for so long. >> dana milbank, professor james peterson, thank you so much. >>> next, perhaps the most preposterous comments on a
. >> lindsey graham said the republicans aren't generating enough angry white guys to stay in power. it will describe them as fr freeloade freeloaders. that's not going to work. >> i think it's fair to say the republicans have sort of cornered the market on the angry white guy vote. there's not a whole lot more upside they can have there. and that's the issue here is if you look at where demographics are going, it's latinos are going to be the dominant force in politics here and the...
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lindsey graham who said hagel's in-your-face nomination. gillibrand who may have questions. what will you be watching for or who, rana? >> again, i'm hoping this is going to be a real policy discussion, and i think on iran, we really need to have a big conversation about our position in iran, and i just want to say in terms of being perceived as weak or not aggressive enough about adversaries in the least, i disagree with that. if you look at economic sanctions in iran and working with partners around sanctions, they've been effective in large measure. i mean, are the government of iran is not very popular right now in large part because we've worked with partners. the president has come up with a coalition around sanctions, and those have been effective. i think they need more time to work. i think that perceiving somebody as not being strong because they're saying we don't want to rush into one of the most strategically important countries and have a military operation is the wrong approach. >> syria is another challenge ahead. in a questionnaire hagel said this, i do not
lindsey graham who said hagel's in-your-face nomination. gillibrand who may have questions. what will you be watching for or who, rana? >> again, i'm hoping this is going to be a real policy discussion, and i think on iran, we really need to have a big conversation about our position in iran, and i just want to say in terms of being perceived as weak or not aggressive enough about adversaries in the least, i disagree with that. if you look at economic sanctions in iran and working with...
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graham, michael bloomberg has become the most generous university donor of in the united states. he has now given a total of $1.1 billion to his school. not bad for a guy who was apparently, his first donation to johns hopkins was 5 bucks about the year after he graduated and if you think you've seen the last of grover norquist. the tax activist has thrown his hat back into the ring, not over taxes this time but in support of statehood for puerto rico. norquist will appear at a press conference this week with former republican governor luis fortuno and some analysts say the president declared liberalism alive and well during his inaugural address what does that mean for his second-term agenda? and the super bowl may become a platform this year to support gay marriage, at least if one baltimore ravens player has his way. i'll talk to dave zarin who has a new book about the impact of politics on sports. a fascinating read. this is msnbc, the place for politics. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes
graham, michael bloomberg has become the most generous university donor of in the united states. he has now given a total of $1.1 billion to his school. not bad for a guy who was apparently, his first donation to johns hopkins was 5 bucks about the year after he graduated and if you think you've seen the last of grover norquist. the tax activist has thrown his hat back into the ring, not over taxes this time but in support of statehood for puerto rico. norquist will appear at a press conference...
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. >> lindsey graham previously supported has said we are not voting for it for reasons having nothing -- >> (not at all. you have the filibuster used all of the time. >> 50 votes in the senate killed the filibuster. >> 60 votes does not kill a filibuster. (talking over one another) >> we heard people calling president bush an imperial president you hear it more about president obama. he is not king. he is not king. you saw people respond when the federal court struck down the nlrb relations appointments and said it was in recess. no it wasn't, you are not allowed to do that. you are not king. you have to remember. >> the case to watch is the one i lose the nra going back, roosevelt acts, everybody learns the constitutional law. where this is going to wind up ultimately is in the court. absent that congresses are going to do it. they are just not going to. >> you are going to strike down everything obama did, what the previous presidents have done. >> it is not legally true. if you are going to attack obama for it then you have to attack previous president for it. >> the recent appoint
. >> lindsey graham previously supported has said we are not voting for it for reasons having nothing -- >> (not at all. you have the filibuster used all of the time. >> 50 votes in the senate killed the filibuster. >> 60 votes does not kill a filibuster. (talking over one another) >> we heard people calling president bush an imperial president you hear it more about president obama. he is not king. he is not king. you saw people respond when the federal court...